Bryson Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Is the Genlyte site down for anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Is the Genlyte site down for anyone else?Yes - can't get onto it at all.... :** laughs out loud **: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Confirmation on the L&SI website: here including a note that 60 jobs in the UK have been lost. The UK operation is in the hands of administrators KPMG, under Jane Moriarty and Blair Nimmo. KPMG has confirmed to LSI Online that 60 reduncancies have been made in the UK, and it is not thought that anyone from the UK operation is being retained by Genlyte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Genlyte pages now back on line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oovis Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 As the current Chief Electrician of the theatre previously known as the Strand, where one of the company founders worked, I'm saddened by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Naffing Hell - does anyone know if anyone is holding stock of Strand stuff??? Spares and new kit etc. as it was my understanding that they were making to order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 This is what I was just thinking - if there aren't going to be any operations in the UK (which I presume from LSI) then how are we going to get spares and who's to say they won't cost a fortune... I presume the likes of AC or SLX have a certain amount of popular spares in stock though? My SLs are already costing the earth to keep going! Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam FitzG Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 One would presume that it will just be like dealing with any other company who manufactures in other countries. Spares for Selecon, RJ, ETC and many many others all have to come from various foreign parts and are held by dealers and the like for local customers.After all the majority of dimming products from Strand are made in the Far East and US already, the lanterns are being produced in the US and the 100 and 200 controls are made in the Far East. Strand (as in the international company) will not turn their back on the European market, that would be financially silly.We have fairly large stocks of spares here for all the manufacturers which we deal for. We are quite used to bringing in spares from over seas (given that there are no Lighting manufacturers in Ireland!). Most manufacturers set up the pricing schedule to account for international shipping, and only local shipping tends to affect prices.The big change will be in the personal contacts that so many of us have made with the people who work there.Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I don't think many of us are surprised - sad, but not surprised. For quite a while it has been very obvious that the uk mattered very little to the Strand worldwide organisation. Spares are already short - the recent comments about barn doors perhaps should have been a warning that things were not quite right. The fact that the receivers are in and appointed does suggest that this has been coming for a while. Well, that pretty well kills the new Palette - reports about it crashing during demo at ABTT and the dubious design concept of a desk that is silver, with grey writing in a dark control room. The lack of an extended Genius op system, and an extension of the light palette say US to me. I don't suppose their UK sales will be worth much at all now - people have been waiting for years for the 500 replacement, which we thought the new desk was, only to find it was the 300 replacement with another wait for the top of the range to be addressed. If the recievers are in, things must have been shaky at ABTT - odd we were all in the dark. Getting orders for the new kit, with this huge cloud over their heads seems a little 'sharp'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam FitzG Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 SNIP...Well, that pretty well kills the new Palette - reports about it crashing during demo at ABTTIt was running beta test software, so it was bound to be a bit shaky. It was completely developed in the US and given to the UK as a finished package, I don't think that was a big secret. SNIP...If the receivers are in, things must have been shaky at ABTT - odd we were all in the dark. To be honest I really don't think that they knew that far back that they were actually going to close now. The "administrators" (as Strand are calling them) would have been appointed by the buyer to dispose of the parts of the company which they had no interest in keeping. I would say that they might have know about the take over, but from those I have spoken to today they were not expecting this last month. Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Halliday Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 ".... completely developed in the US and given to the UK as a finished package" Ummm, no. Not true. Software from the UK (as it always has been for the 500s), hardware design (internals) from the UK. Can't speak for the case or colour scheme. Design input from both sides of the Atlantic and beyond. A name - 500, Palette, whatever - is just a name. It was shaping up to be a hell of a console family. Hopefully it still will be.... Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinT Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I would say that they might have know about the take over, but from those I have spoken to today they were not expecting this last month. Liam Apparently talks were held post PLASA for the whole of the Strand Network, then again around Christmas for the same. Only this week did it change to its current form. With Strand Ltd in recievership the buyers aren't liable for the shutdown/redundancy/relocation costs that were part of the uk restructuring effort. I believe that upto the last minute the UK thourght they were part of the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 So .... I know that Genlight have bought out strand America and Strand Asia....and I've heared the rumours about Strand UK becoming no more... Has anyone heard any more at this stage - like product support etc mike Moderation: topics merged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam FitzG Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 If you ring Strand at the moment you are asked for your name and number and told that the administrators will be setting up a "help line" in the next few days to answer questions. Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Some Bloke Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Yes, I just tried to find out about getting an onsite demo of the Palette with a view to buying one but was told that neither the demo nor the purchase were possible. Great idea: unviel a brand new product at a big tradeshow in a blaze of glory then don't let anyone buy it! Hey ho. That makes the choice easier, I suppose. ETC or LSC. [P.S. In my role as moderator I should point out that this is not the thread to post feelings on that matter!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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