boswell Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I have converted our mirror lights to 12v MR16, 35w flood with aluminium reflrctors (coolback) so they throw the heat forward.Mounted in 100x50mm plastic trunking, no complaints so far, each fitting inc bulb cost abt £2 and a 105va transformer for 3 lamps.No complaints from cast so far and they have been done 2 years.I would have used 20w bulbs but could not get them with aluminium reflectors only Dichroic, I'll take some pics when I'm next in. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Allen Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Have a look at the Osam Halogen Energy Saver range as a replacement lamp. There is a Decostar 51 Energy saver, 20W replaces 35W. The lowest wattage they have in the Classic A series is 28W which is their replacement for 40W lamps so you would need a dimmer to get your makeup lamps down to where you started from, or just leave out every second lamp and remove the unused lampholders or cap them with neutral cure silicon. There will be a wider range eventually, at least these are more practical than CFL's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HobitLight Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Has anyone seen any cheap energy saving bulbs recently? In Dunells they were selling them at 99p each... or 5 for £1!!!!!! Bargain! EDIT: Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleah Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Has anyone seen any cheap energy saving bulbs recently? In Dunells they were selling them at 99p each... or 5 for £1!!!!!! Bargain! EDIT: Spelling Guessing you mean CFL. CFL's have improved quite a lot recently, I think the cheap ones tend to be rubbish, I.e,. take forever to actually give out any light then never seem to be especially bright and often yellowerer (technical term that ;) ).I had a couple of the really cheap ones at home and ended up replacing them B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boswell Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I'll take some pics when I'm next in. HTH http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k118/boswell2006/01010007copy.jpg http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k118/boswell2006/01010008copy.jpg As promised, and no, it's not me in the pics !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmkanetti Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Yup this is a total mind field BUT there is a really good breakdown on this page - http://www.qvsdirect.com/Guide-to-New-EU-D...amps-p-100.html explaining what will be banned when and what the exceptions are. The original document produced by the EU commission was very tricky to interpret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam2 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 As others state, lamps used in some specialist applications, including theatres etc will be exempt.However some lamp types such as 150 watt and 200 watt GLS lamps may become unavailable, I suspect that banning the retail sale of such lamps may reduce demand to the point where production is no longer worthwhile. It would appear that only retail sales will be prohibited, therefore such lamps should still be available from trade suppliers, PROVIDED that demand warrents continued production. I suspect the GLS lamps in extra low voltages will soon become unavailable, demand is already very limited. This could be a problem for theatres with central battery emergency lighting systems.110 volt CFLs are now readily available, but I dont know if they will work on DC. I have never seen a 50 volt CFL24 volt CFLs exist, but are said to be DC only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 As that stands they are only trying to ban the domestic use of the BC100W etc. lamp. However, I wonder whether the manufacturers will continue to make them after the ban comes in? Even if they do, the price is going to rocket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Hampson Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 It would appear that the Banks of 'S type' Strand Battens I use in one of the local theatres are doomed then. I'm already struggling to get 200W GLS for the Patt137s. I need to stockpile some 150W ES lamps before they dissappear completley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam2 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 It would appear that the Banks of 'S type' Strand Battens I use in one of the local theatres are doomed then. I'm already struggling to get 200W GLS for the Patt137s. I need to stockpile some 150W ES lamps before they dissappear completley These are still readily available from international lamps at present, but in view of the concerns re future availability, it might be sensible to get in a good stock.Perhaps dimmable compact flourescents might be an option in the longer term? these are available now, but not AFAIK in 150/200 watt equivalents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Perhaps dimmable compact flourescents might be an option in the longer term? these are available now, but not AFAIK in 150/200 watt equivalents.They'll be totally useless. The dimmable CFs are fine if you want to dim the lights in your living room to create a mood, but dimming up from off, and down to off, no hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbuckley Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 And of course, now that GLS blubskies are on the way out, plasma tellys are next, courtesy of the EU. Wonder if ther'll be an exemption on them for non-home users...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Pearce Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 These should do nicely for S34s and the ilk, unlikely to come under the ban as they're halogen and as a bonus you should be able to stay at the same power consumption (as long as the fixture copes with any extra heat), so you can probably up the output light level. [edit]Didn't check available wattage lamps... They only sell up to 60W replacement. Looking to see if bigger ones are made though. [edit2]Found 150W halogens, which give a similar luminous flux to a standard 200W. The other solution I've seen with S34s is to fit PAR38 lamps, which seemed to work half decently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Found 150W halogens, which give a similar luminous flux to a standard 200W. The other solution I've seen with S34s is to fit PAR38 lamps, which seemed to work half decently.They do work, but tend to be rather spotty, unless you are quite some way back from the cloth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam2 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Additional information re the coming ban on incandescent lamps, received in an email from a major lamp suppliers. 150 watt and 200 watt GLS lamps are now banned, in any finish, (suitable alternatives are halogen or compactflourescent) All common types of pearl/opal/otherwise non clear lamps to banned from the end of this year, including GLS, candle, golf ball.(suitable alternatives are compact flourescents) Clear lamps up to 100 watts allowed for now, but to be gradualy withdrawn over a few years starting with the higher wattage ones. All common types of mains voltage frosted halogen lamps banned from the end of this year, clear ones still allowed. Linear halogen lamps only permitted in enhanced efficiency types (which in effect means the ones with an IRR coating) All low energy lamps to be efficiency rating "A" (most are already) This applies to all common lamp types with a rated voltage of over 60 volts, therefore 12,24, and 50 volt GLS lamps are safe for now.110/120 volt to be replaced with compact flourescent, or perhaps halogen, though I know of no such product in the UK. This applies to retial sales intended for d0m3stic lighting, theatres and other specialist users would appear to be exempt, though I suspect that many lamp types may go out of production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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