cedd Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 That's not a bad idea. I'd always just assumed smoke fluid to come out of the bottle and be pretty much unchangeable. I might have an experiment. Just need somewhere to play in now without gasing myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 All the problems with water based hazers are about putting in fluid that is too concentrated which results in blocked machines. Thinning should be no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LampieManPro Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Dont forget that if you use a fan, that you put it behind the smoke machine. If you let the smoke be sucked through the fan by putting it infront, the vapour will condense on the fan, and will get very wet! and may bugger the fan. Water down your fluid with some di-ionised water, and use a fan. But you may have to exsperiment because the thinner the fluid the more likely steam will be created and therefore the vapour will be wetter, just a thought vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar11387 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 There are many different grades of fluids out there... although we only mainly sell two: Fog and Haze. But we cater for everything from a very light haze to an incredibly dense and long lasting fog - so fluid is always a good place to start. As mentioned, a fan is always a good idea but I can personally recommend the Antari Z-300II as mentioned previously by a poster. CPC do have a few left (when I last spoke to them) as do our warehouses but I do know that they are currently updating their portfolio of effect fluids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtheenchanteruk Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 In my experiance, you only need very little water to the smoke to reduce its intensity, too much and it just dissipates too quickly, and is weak and pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bleasdale Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I would have to say a large fan, I had the exact model of somke machine and it worked brilliantly for the budget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IJWesley Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Hi Everyone Following on from this very interesting topic. I have to produce a haze effect for our upcoming production of Into The Woods and I only have a smoke machine to play with (and very little budget - it's all being spent on sound and orchestra). The director wants the haze effect for the whole show, so my question is, if I follow the advice in this thread and go with a low output and a big fan - how much liquid am I likely to need for a 3 hour show? 500ml? A litre? A hogshead? I'm not sure what the make of fog machine is - we borrow it when needed for a nominal fee from a local guy. I think it's small a Jem, but until I see him in a couple of weeks I won't know for sure. This info is really for budget purposes - if I need to allow $20 per performance for liquid, then the producer is going to have some serious thinking to do. Thanks for any info Ian(already stressed after only 1 rehearsal!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirch Sound Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Its impossible to say without knowing what machine you have and how much you water down your fluid. A ZR22/33 is going to use a hell of alot more fluid than a magnum 650! Its all proportional. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IJWesley Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Its impossible to say without knowing what machine you have and how much you water down your fluid. A ZR22/33 is going to use a hell of alot more fluid than a magnum 650! Its all proportional. Rich I guess I should have known that would be the answer! I have done some digging in the files and it looks like a magnum 650 or possibly 800 if that helps Thanks Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Firstly - watering down smoke fluid?! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Secondly - it depends on a few more factors than the fluid consumption rate of the machine. The air movement in the performing space will have a lot to do with it - smoke fluid doesn't "hang" like proper haze fluid does, and if you've got air handling equipment running in the space, or doors being opened and closed a lot, you'll find that it has quite an effect on how long the effect will hang about for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBird Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Sorry to drag up an old thread and I might sound a little stupid but for a 24' x 8' stage, I'm going to have to place the smoke machine under the stage with a fan horizontal to the smoke projection. Would an oscillating fan or static fan be best if it's right at the back of the stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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