steve h Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 CRB and "safeguarding" is currently very high up on Ofsteds agenda...as we've just found out Just a little hint to any schools expecting ofsted soon! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twohats Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 And the answer to the original question is in the FAQ... Q25. For the purposes of the Scheme, what is the definition of a child?• A young person under the age of 18, except in employment settings, where theage limit is 16. So there are no requirements on those working with a 16 or 17year old in employment settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Generally, in my eyes, unsupervised contact with children/vulnerable adults constitutes getting a CRB check done.I think that's what we've been saying. It's being alone where the problem is, not just being in a place where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutwo Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 CRB and "safeguarding" is currently very high up on Ofsteds agenda...as we've just found out Just a little hint to any schools expecting ofsted soon! Steve Indeed, we've been warned that, among other things, even a propped open external door that could give access to an intruder will result in the school being put under "Special measures". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve h Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Indeed, we've been warned that, among other things, even a propped open external door that could give access to an intruder will result in the school being put under "Special measures". The phrase you are after is "limiting factors" and although its not quite as bad as your quote makes out it does mean that the negatives in a report will outweigh the positives and bring an Ofsted report down. All staff at schools have to have "safeguarding" training every 2 years, and all people who enter school to work with pupils have to present a CRB and photo ID and then we still have to keep an eye on them On the flip side I was told to always have an open door policy when working alone with a student. Which is all well and good in most situations except I have to work in a photographic dark room, which as the name suggests isn't exactly a place where you can keep the door open. However many measures they bring in there will always be situations where they cannot work Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHoward Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 We are required to have our desks on the opposite side of the room facing the door, so that we are never between the pupil and exit, so that they are free to exit at any time they wish, and we couldn't be accused of preventing them. Just to clarify - this is for offices, not classrooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulears Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 My son's on a college course called uniformed services - designed for people who may want to go in the forces, or similar, and one of their units is unarmed combat, and seems to be an excuse for the ex-army tutor to beat the cr*p out of the students while demonstrating. I like this idea, and am not bothered by the bruises my son comes home with when 'he moved' while the teacher was kicking him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadhippy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 so with all this open doors and desks away from doors to protect the pupil whats in place to protect the tutor from violent pupils? maybe Pauls got the answer,someone trained in unarmed combat to give the pupils a good kicking now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutwo Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Indeed, we've been warned that, among other things, even a propped open external door that could give access to an intruder will result in the school being put under "Special measures". The phrase you are after is "limiting factors" and although its not quite as bad as your quote makes out it does mean that the negatives in a report will outweigh the positives and bring an Ofsted report down. I'll email our inspector who told us that exact thing, to let him know he wasn't on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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