AndrewR Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 (This same theatre has a roof vent right above the fly space, which is designed to open in teh event of a fire. The idea is taht this draws the smoke away from the audience and up into the fly gallery. This sounds like a good idea, until you realise that you then have a tall, narrowing space above the stage, with an opening on top - forming what is know as a chimney. Thus this vent will make the fire worse. Actually, I am pretty certain that the Assembly rooms will one day burn to the ground completely and utterly.)But if the audience can all get out unharmed because the auditorium is smoke-free, then surely that's no bad thing. Oddly enough most architects are familiar with this phenomena, thats why proscenium arch theatres have safety curtains. Unless it doesn't have an Iron, cause that would just be crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryote Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 This is slightly going back to nearer the start of the post, but Health and Safety Legislation states that the employee has to take responsibility for his/her actions. In other words if you know that hanging lamps with cables ties is a bad move then YOU and not the manager ultimately takes responsibility for any accidents. Something to think about when you are asked by management to do stupid things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomB Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I would personaly refuse and tell the manager why. If he has a problem with it let him rig them up. The law is on your side here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicktaylor Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 This is slightly going back to nearer the start of the post, but Health and Safety Legislation states that the employee has to take responsibility for his/her actions. In other words if you know that hanging lamps with cables ties is a bad move then YOU and not the manager ultimately takes responsibility for any accidents. Something to think about when you are asked by management to do stupid things Not so sure, I cant find the exact wording , but I think "equal" may be a fairer way of describing the employee/manager role wrt H & S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamharman Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 It is illegal for your employer to discipline you for taking action on health and safety grounds, so if you're sure what you're being told to do is unsafe, refuse to do it.If you've got a stuborn employer it could end up in an employment tribunal but that's better than being in court for manslaughter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomoslighting Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 I walked into my local maplins and noticed cable ties this is total lack of h+ S I know I was doing lighting at a event once and some1 had cabled tied 500w security floods to a marquee pole and I got a radio mesage from the even manager saying they had fallen down luckaly noone was hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave singleton Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Cable ties to marquee frames is very normal. Some of the biggest tented events in the UK use this and no-one bats an eye lid. Next time your in a tent take a look at whats being held up with cable ties. The linings are a favourite as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomoslighting Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 wot had happen in this case is th heat had got to the them but maplins sell hock clamps crap ones at that but they do sell em but am I stating the obvious here get some off the shope floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 wot had happen in this case is th heat had got to the them but maplins sell hock clamps crap ones at that but they do sell em but am I stating the obvious here get some off the shope floorHi Tom, and welcome to the Blue Room. One quick request - part of the T & C for this forum is for all contributors to use proper spelling, punctuation and grammar as far as possible.Unfortunately, your posts seem to run off at a sprint, and take 2 or 3 goes to separate the intent of the text. Please try to keep the standard of posts up! :D :( :( Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPSTechie Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 1 out of 5 lights in my local Maplins where held with cabel ties. I found this out by using a pair a bin's standing in the frount of the shop. (the lights are at the back) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian kirby Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 At plasa this year I noticed a stand which was usinng triangle truss sections, where the truss ends met they had used cable ties to hold the truss together. Plasa shows you how its done in the real world!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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