Nicktaylor Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 I have six which were used for My Fair Lady. Actually the photos dont do them justice! Have alook on my site. Mine are the Par 64 sized ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiLL Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I've seen a demo of the showtec led par and wasn't that impressed, I would say maybe a little less then a 300w par 56, so useless for large venues or even medium sized ones. It looked even less impressive next to the thomas led par64 they had in their demo rig. But seeing as the thomas one goes for about £1500+ what would you expect?http://www.pixelpar.com/90/double-yoke160.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back_ache Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Has anyone tried dropping a fresnel lense into the colour frame of one of these led pars to change the beam angle? Would the low heat output (relatively speaking) allow you to use a cheap plastic one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicktaylor Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 An interesting idea. Next to no heat so the platic one should work. However the price of these thing is proportional to the size so pretty costly I should think for the lense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Pearce Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 The LED par is not a point source, so the lens wouldn't work properly.I haven't got the time or energy to think about what it would do, but wouldn't act as a fresnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Just taken 6 showtec led pars out for a fortnight's tour. Flickered irrespective of auto/audio switch setting. Terminating realy helped here. Too dim to be of any use providing illumination. Acceptable bounced off a white celing for colourful house ligjhts.one of the six stoped responding to DMX in the last week. Marginaly better as floor cans. Generaly not impressed. I will not be buying anything led in the near future at this rate. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back_ache Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 pretty costly I should think for the lense A quick google confirms that they are expensive (relative to the price of the led par itself) :blink: http://www.knightoptical.co.uk/acatalog/Le...cisionrange.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I'm using acrylic frost/diffusion in the gel holders and works well. Obviously it doesn't act like a fresnel but it does take away the glare, give a wider beam angle and smooths out the colour mixing. Temperature is not a factor. 215mm square acrylic cut cost approx £3 per piece. Aside from the one unit having lost the plot and one a small strip of faulty green (combined the two to make one good/one useless :blink: ) I have 41 out of 42 units in use without any problems. All individually addressed and running from a Pearl (2x universes). The overall effect is stunning and exactly how I originally visualised it. I did initially have one unit that refused to respond to DMX. Taking apart/re-affirming connects solved and has worked ever since. To anyone who actually read all of this thread these units are clearly not suitable for traditional stage lighting, but do a great job of highlighting/effect. As always you get what you pay for, but there is one hell of a price difference between these and the real deal! IMO these are really good value, but it is silly to expect them to be able to replace a traditional par. If I were to consider touring these then I would take plenty of spare units and probably consider them virtually disposable given their cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamtastic3 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 So these are the kind of LED pars you could have say in some circular truss mounted at the back on a stage pointing outwards to the audience just for the visualsation side of things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick S Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I've seen a demo of the showtec led par and wasn't that impressed, I would say maybe a little less then a 300w par 56, so useless for large venues or even medium sized ones. It looked even less impressive next to the thomas led par64 they had in their demo rig. But seeing as the thomas one goes for about £1500+ what would you expect? I'm going to keep waxing lyrical about the Thomas pixelpars - if you're looking for LED pars for anything other than effects, they blow everything else out of the water. They're worth their weight in gold when it comes to shows with constantly changing demands (cabaret gigs etc). I got to work with some last year, and they did everything we threw at them. They're bloody bright, and have extremely vivid colours, and just look generally impressive when up in the rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amillar Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I'm using acrylic frost/diffusion in the gel holders and works well. Can you confirm which acrylic frost gel that is? I have tried quarter hampshire frost (Lee 257) but it didn't make enough of a difference for me - experimenting with other gels starts to get expensive. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 @Jamtastic: Probably not very good pointing straight out IMO (though I generally hate seeing the LED's regardless of fixture!) Good for downlighting/uplighting/backlighting set pieces/cyc and preferably with some sort of diffusion to improve the colour mix. Or, as I am using them, in bulk as a club effect (again, with diffusion).In these applications you cannot see the source and so, although not perfect, they fulfill the requirements of no lamp replacements, no heat, colour changing and dimmable for next to nothing. Similar alternatives to achieve the same end result cost a great deal more, have less LED's (thinking of Pulsar options as example) and often require an additional controller.The danger here is that they are marketed as Pars, which is the one thing they don't replace. They just look like them! @amillar: I can't really say. They are acrylic, not gel and so is difficult to compare. What is it you are trying to achieve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackDaniels Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Hi Guys. Just looking for an opinion on These Has anyone any experience of using them or seen them working? Would they be suitable for lighting a small stage in an even smaller bar? ie stage measures 14' x 8' and the ceilings are no more than 9' high. Look forward to your replies Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niclights Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I've not used, but they look essentially the same as Pulsar ChromaDome and its variations. These work as downlighters above bars/tables etc. but I really don't think they would be any use on a stage, even a small one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypersound Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Hi All, Has anyone had the chance to look at the "Batmink led par light"? Batmink led PAR This looks very much like the Showtec Studio Beam at stagelighting: Studio Beam LED Batmink reckon they have more LEDs and run at 50W, however so, presumably, they should be quite a bit brighter. Plus, has anyone tried the 457 LED, 15 degree cans on offer from our friends in china on eBay? They reckon they are, ahem, "10 times brighter" than the 151 LED units. They reckon a useful range of 10 - 15m. Now call me a cynic and a sceptic but I am unconvinced. But if they will do what the auction says they will, they could be a VERY useful tool at the price. eBay PARs All feedback or whatever gratefully received. Cheers.Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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