Seano Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 How about taking them down for a bit of a clean, using 3/8" fasteners in conjunction with the lovely threaded yoke to bolt them to cheap wooden tripods and then flogging them for silly money on Ebay as period wossnames? Then you can buy some nice modern lanterns that let a bit more light out. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenEdwards Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 3/8 bolts and wing nuts still available from Stage Electrics I see. I may have a box in the shed - I'll check. Any slightly oversize washer will do. The only patt lanterns we have are a couple of 743s. User M10 as they are not threaded and seems to work fine. Are wingnuts any good for non-treaded yokes? Just wondering. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Are wingnuts any good for non-treaded yokes? Just wondering. Wing nuts are more than fine on ANY lantern if you follow the advice given near the top of this thread. Making sure that the bolt coing UP thru the yoke is tight and you use the appropriate washers etc means the lantern can be easily focussed and tightened without the need for any tools as a rule - ESPECIALLY that invention of the devil, the wing-nut spanner...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I have successfully found imperial threaded items from Clerkenwell Screws, but that's only useful if you pass near there in opening times. Even found BSW socket sets there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior8 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Are wingnuts any good for non-treaded yokes? Just wondering. Wing nuts are more than fine on ANY lantern if you follow the advice given near the top of this thread. Making sure that the bolt coing UP thru the yoke is tight and you use the appropriate washers etc means the lantern can be easily focussed and tightened without the need for any tools as a rule - ESPECIALLY that invention of the devil, the wing-nut spanner...!! Ynot is absolutely right but you must use the washers always, otherwise the wing nut will often sit in the clamp hole and appear tight when it isn't. I never ever used a spanner while rigging or focussing lanterns which were suspended - a properly used wing nut is all that is required for ordinary use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenEdwards Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 But of course, the answer is always, you need a copy of this: https://www.amazon.c...d/dp/087830147X Dug it out but cant find any info on how to attach a yoke/washer nut configuration. Nothing in the rigging section and flicked through the whole book. Lots of great stuff in there. Must read it all. Be interested in any other handbooks people recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Dug it out but cant find any info on how to attach a yoke/washer nut configuration. Nothing in the rigging section and flicked through the whole book. Lots of great stuff in there. Must read it all. Be interested in any other handbooks people recommend. Hi Ben, You're absolutely right, it's not explicitly documented in that book - one of the few things that isn't! To be honest I was being a bit flippant and just wanted to plug Francis Reid's book! In the 4th Edition (my well-thumbed, heavily read and re-read version), p24 has a nice picture of a Strand Patt23 that shows some of the elements that I listed in my earlier post. I've also got the 6th Ed of that book (which I'm afraid I think is most inferior to the 4th Ed) and this picture has been removed. My other favourite book that has "direct practical value" for me is Neil Fraser's Stage Lighting Design - A Practical Guide (https://www.amazon.c...e/dp/1861262485). I particularly like the "worked exercises" which I go back to time and again to reset my thoughts, particularly on the selection of colour and angle (which is a little less prominent in Francis Reid's slightly "older style" book). Not a book I use "day-to-day" but for a general "good read" and some nostalgia then Richard Pilbrow's Stage Lighting Design - The Art, The Craft, The Life (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stage-Lighting-Richard-Pilbrow/dp/1854592734/ref=pd_cp_14_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=VE4H5SDTBT9RVFVBW2F7). For a book with some "pretty pictures" which can give some inspiration (but other than that I think is quite weak) I have this: https://www.amazon.c...ng+step+by+step . I think I bought my copy in Dublin many years ago when I was there on a stag weekend... you can see where my priorities lay in my younger years! Regards,Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenEdwards Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 My other favourite book that has "direct practical value" for me is Neil Fraser's Stage Lighting Design - A Practical Guide (https://www.amazon.c...e/dp/1861262485). I particularly like the "worked exercises" which I go back to time and again to reset my thoughts, particularly on the selection of colour and angle (which is a little less prominent in Francis Reid's slightly "older style" book). Not a book I use "day-to-day" but for a general "good read" and some nostalgia then Richard Pilbrow's Stage Lighting Design - The Art, The Craft, The Life (https://www.amazon.c...SDTBT9RVFVBW2F7). For a book with some "pretty pictures" which can give some inspiration (but other than that I think is quite weak) I have this: https://www.amazon.c...ng+step+by+step . I think I bought my copy in Dublin many years ago when I was there on a stag weekend... you can see where my priorities lay in my younger years! Regards,Kevin Thanks, just found both the others used for around 3 quid each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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